@SeekingPlumb

Can you look at Trump's decisions from outside your politics?

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That was not good, if you're lucky, leaning in your politics, can you name something that he did? That was good. I'm not going to define what is good and what is not good. But I thought it might be an interesting exercise for us to stretch our perspective instead of being so polarized and how we view this man

Lean Left? Can you name something good POTUS did? Lean Right? Can you name something bad that he did? https://app.swell.life/swellcast/S6ew

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@bowie
Bowie Rowan
@bowieΒ Β·Β 2:26

https://s.swell.life/SSEencJZc5JbTy9

So to be honest, when you ask this question, I did not have anything that immediately came to mind, or I should say the first thing that immediately came to mind. I don't know if I would hold POTUS responsible for this, but it is something that happened during his administration, and I do identify as someone who is pretty left leaning, much farther left than the current, more popular left in the States is probably at
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@SeekingPlumb

I see what you mean by somewhat complicated. @rachel

However difficult it might be to quantify that whether the same conclusion or decision would have been made under a different administration, it's hard to say right. I mean, depending on the administration, whether Democratic or Republican, and then who they decided to fill that Supreme Court Justice seat. But at least this is something good that's come out of this presidency. Right
@Taylor
Taylor J
@TaylorΒ Β·Β 1:25
I've always really enjoyed history, and I've always enjoyed politics, and I've always loved learning as much as I can about the presidents and the decisions that they make. So I just really am of the mind that he has done so many horrible things. It clouds my mind almost to the point where I can't do what you're asking me to do and see the good things that he's done because I try to all the time, and it does not ever compute
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@SeekingPlumb

https://s.swell.life/SSEg4VJNIpVXCGg @CaliGooner

I feel much the same way, Taylor, but you know, as much as his personality, his choices, his behaviours, his some of his policies negatively overwhelm what good he may have done. I guess I'm treading dangerously close to both sides have very fine people. But I do want to see if there are policy decisions that he's made that have any positive lasting effects going forward. So truthfully, this was really about challenging myself, but hoping to open a dialogue as well
@Liberty_Jack
Jack McKinley
@Liberty_JackΒ Β·Β 3:13
So I'm a libertarian, so I actually Heman a little bit both ways. At one point, I considered myself a blue dog Democrat. For those of you that aren't aware of what a blue dog Democrat is, actually, I don't know if it still exists, but there was a caucus of blue dog Democrats, and they were fiscally responsible and fiscally conservative. I guess that's the better term fiscally conservative Democrats actually probably lined up a lot with libertarianism
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@HeMan493
Richard keys
@HeMan493Β Β·Β 0:27
Hi seeking plum. I'm actually left leaning so I couldn't really think of anything good. I tried my hardest. I just really couldn't think of anything significant that he's done in his career. Yeah
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@FryedOreo
Dewuan .
@FryedOreoΒ Β·Β 4:43

Trump is fun for me, I can appreciate his ego. πŸ€·πŸΎβ€β™‚οΈ

I also enjoy how much he p***** people off as well. For me, it's funny, especially when people use the same jokes to Orange Man and all that. It's like you all ain't doing nothing but making him bigger. It's not hurting him. Trust me, that's actually strengthening his brand. And it's actually showing a new brand of politics. In a way, it's like you have to actually in a weird way
@SeekingPlumb

Then a different challenge, @Dewuan.

And in order to get to those issues, we have to dig past the upfront and in your face personalities, the things that they've said, true or false some of their behaviors, and get down to it of the policies. Okay, Duane, so along the lines of how we think my previous swell, perhaps you need a different challenge then than what's presented here. I know you have voiced on several occasions the Mary reasons why you have no interest in voting
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@FryedOreo
Dewuan .
@FryedOreoΒ Β·Β 1:01

There isn’t a good reason to vote, you got me! @SeekingPlumb

You got me, Christina. I can't think of any good reason to vote. Not one totally stumped. I can pretend and enlist a bunch of reasons. Sure, but genuinely in my heart. What? I feel nothing for politics, nothing. I feel absolutely nothing for Trump or Biden. Democrats, Republicans, left wing, right wing. It all doesn't matter to me. It's all the same thing you got me. I can't think of one good reason. Touche a plate
@SeekingPlumb

πŸ™πŸ» @Dewuan

If it came across as a gotcha moment. Dewuan, I'm sorry. That was not my intention. I'm just trying to for myself included, you know, pry us out of those habitual ways of thinking and tried to see something a little different. So, yeah, apologies if it came across that way and I can hear what you're saying. I understand for some people, these countrywide decisions are not really of interest
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Swell Team
@SwellΒ Β·Β 0:15

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@FryedOreo
Dewuan .
@FryedOreoΒ Β·Β 4:35

I too strive to provide alternative perspectives.

I feel like I have to do it on every platform, and it gets so exhausting and boring to talk about that. But I guess it made sense within the context of what I was framing it as when I say I don't care about politics, it's just of no interest to me, really. I mean, there's been many people in society throughout time that have not cared about the way governments worked or flowed or whatever. They just lived their life. I'm not the only one
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@SeekingPlumb

I'm sorry. πŸ™πŸ» @Dewuan

You're right, Juan. You answered the question. I keep thinking back as to what I could have or should have changed. And there are many points where I think I could have done it differently because honestly, it wasn't about the politics, wasn't about whether you decide or want to vote or not. That was a topic by which most of us have strong opinions and beliefs. And I saw this as a thought experiment. And that topic was something that fit into the experiment
@FluffandStuff
Mary Williams
@FluffandStuffΒ Β·Β 0:30
Cannot think of one thing that Trump has done good. I don't like him, but that's my decision, in my opinion at all. So I no, that's my answer. I don't like him. He's done a lot of bad things. And that's the answer at the end of the day. For me, that's it. I
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