@shammi
Shammi Mohamed
@shammi · 3:44

Ranked choice voting

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What we should be doing is using the primaries to sort of move towards more of a rank choice system, but instead, what essentially starts happening in a lot of places is the primaries end up being set up to choose the winners in each party, which sort of defeats the whole purpose of having the primaries. I feel like maybe we should just abolish all the primaries and just go towards a single ranked choice system, which I think will really help a lot

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@Vikas
Vikas Gupta
@Vikas · 2:33

Http://equalcitizens.us problems facing democracy, Larry Lessig

And how do you change that and then ranked choice voting not just for the primaries but also for the president's election because it has happened where an independent candidate who stands as a third party candidate who stands for the presidential nomination can take away votes from the top two candidates. And as a result, you may get someone as elected as a President who most people may not have preferred to be the President
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@sudha
Sudha Varadarajan
@sudha · 1:20

https://hbs.me/2BFaPUR

Hey Shammi. Excellent question. For those of us who have been very civic minded and followed this closely. There was a brilliant paper published published three years ago by Katherine Gell and Michael Porter from HPS. I'm giving a link over here. You can just read the paper and everything that Vikas talks about and more is addressed in that paper. And it's actually almost governing standard in some sense
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Swell Team
@Swell · 0:15

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@shammi
Shammi Mohamed
@shammi · 4:50
It does a great job at illustrating why and how we got to where we are and also what can be done to fix it because, yes, I was somewhat familiar with Larry Lessing. The first time I came across him was in one of Andrew Yang's town halls with him. Actually, it was a very nice town hall, and you both are right ranked. Choice voting is not just a silver bullet
@sudha
Sudha Varadarajan
@sudha · 1:54
Hey. So I just remembered one interesting tidbit, and I thought I'd share, so I don't know if, you know, but San Francisco's Mayor elections is actually by ranked choice voted. It has been that way for for many years, and I'm all for ranked choice voting. But Interestingly enough, this last election cycle, where London Bridge became Mayor for a period of time when the count was going on, it appeared that actually the second choice voter would of both
@shammi
Shammi Mohamed
@shammi · 2:44
They knock out the lowest candidate and they tally up their second choices back into the mix, and they keep doing this until somebody crosses 50%. So what the rank choice gives us is not who has the most votes, but who is the person that everybody are okay with having or who is the person with the least votes that people don't have voted against
@shammi
Shammi Mohamed
@shammi · 2:09
And that apparently supposed to get you a more better result, because that essentially tells you all the candidates you're for and all the candidates you're against. Period. Right. And then with that tally, chances are you will hit the 50% easier. But anyways, that too is not completely foolproof, because what if you do not hit the 50%? Right
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Shahnaz Ahmed
@bookishpodcast · 2:50

I got an education 😊

I don't know, but yeah, no, it sounds super cool. I do want to bring up another weird cool, whatever concept. It's not mine. Obviously, I had heard and I don't have the link, and I don't remember when or where. But it was around the time of the Trump presidency, just before that. There was an international voting site where it's kind of like, just to see how, like, Trump and Hillary
@shammi
Shammi Mohamed
@shammi · 2:50
Hey, Shanas, what you said about like having everybody on the same ballot, that is a separate issue from rank choice voting, having everybody on the same ballot that was also talked about in the paper that sudden posted that we need to get rid of party based primaries, and we need to have an open primary for everybody. Where I think one of the choices that they're recommending is instead of drilling down, having the primary drill down to two candidates, have the primary drill down to four candidates
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